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		<title>By: teeni</title>
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		<dc:creator>teeni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 04:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s awful you have to deal with all this crap now.  I&#039;m so sorry.  I swear that it explains why so many people have nervous breakdowns though.  Sheesh.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s awful you have to deal with all this crap now.  I&#8217;m so sorry.  I swear that it explains why so many people have nervous breakdowns though.  Sheesh.<br />
.-= teeni&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Vtroom/~3/PuWKlngR-po/" rel="nofollow">Boxes and Meezes and Things of That Sort</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Hyphen Mama</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hyphen Mama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 21:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep. I love Donna B&#039;s comment. There is a serious need of overhauling the &quot;system&quot;, but I don&#039;t think anybody knows what the magic formula is.

Mack&#039;s birth cost us $6000 out of pocket.  It sucked. Hard. Mostly because Wynnie&#039;s cost us $1000 with a different insurance company and we weren&#039;t prepared for $6000.  

But what the heck with credit card companies, the water company and the bank??? HUGE bummer.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep. I love Donna B&#8217;s comment. There is a serious need of overhauling the &#8220;system&#8221;, but I don&#8217;t think anybody knows what the magic formula is.</p>
<p>Mack&#8217;s birth cost us $6000 out of pocket.  It sucked. Hard. Mostly because Wynnie&#8217;s cost us $1000 with a different insurance company and we weren&#8217;t prepared for $6000.  </p>
<p>But what the heck with credit card companies, the water company and the bank??? HUGE bummer.<br />
.-= Hyphen Mama&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/MommyNeeds5Minutes/~3/k34nDpUxipY/how-to-guarantee-potty-training-success.html" rel="nofollow">How to guarantee Potty Training Success&#8230;.</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: lceel</title>
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		<dc:creator>lceel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 02:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many Insurance Companies outsource claims adjustment - and the outsource gets paid based on what the Insurance company does NOT pay versus what they are billed.  Thus the constant denial of claims - and the necessity to prove up every penny.
.-= lceel&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Louceel/~3/StvPvwIHtRg/sing-alma-mater.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sing Alma Mater&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many Insurance Companies outsource claims adjustment &#8211; and the outsource gets paid based on what the Insurance company does NOT pay versus what they are billed.  Thus the constant denial of claims &#8211; and the necessity to prove up every penny.<br />
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		<title>By: Donna B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donna B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 08:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I completely understand your frustrations... I&#039;m reluctant to say that it is the fault of &quot;insurance&quot;. I am more inclined to say it it is the fault of unbelievably inaccurate ideas about &quot;health&quot; in general.

First of all, &quot;health&quot; insurance is misnamed. It is designed to cover costs that are due to unhealthy states... a bacterial infection, for example.

Pregnancy is generally a condition of health, not unhealth. There are exceptions, of course. Pre-eclampsia, gestational diabetes... these are state of unhealth that pregnancy triggers. They are NOT unhealthy in themselves, as there is nothing a woman can do to make them not happen.

However, refusal to pay for a Rhogam test and subsequent adminstration of the shot doesn&#039;t fall under &quot;healthy&quot; or &quot;unhealthy&quot;. It&#039;s a reasonable action to take given known factors. There is no reason why insurance should not cover this. It is in their best interest to do so.

Had you delivered Everly &quot;normally&quot; -- that is, in a hospital, you would not have to be fighting some of these things. Your choice to go outside the &quot;normal&quot; guidelines has led to scrutiny not applicable to a hospital delivery.

This is completely unfair and unconscionable. It is also a precursor to the &quot;guidelines&quot; that will be implemented if/when universal health coverage is enacted.

I support your decision to have Everly delivered by a competent and caring midwife. Now that I&#039;ve seen how wonderful it was for you, I can&#039;t imagine it happening any other way. And I find it incomprehensible that your insurance would not pay for your much less expensive choice of childbirth. Somewhere there is a &quot;does not compute&quot; module.

Had my daughter chosen the same delivery regimen you did, there is no doubt in my mind that a competent midwife would have recommended a C-section for her. In fact, I think a midwife might have recommended it sooner than the physician did, thus sparing my daughter some of the after-effects of trying too long for a vaginal delivery.

Insurance is misunderstood by most people. It is not a guarantee of payment for any given procedure. It is a bet. Insurance bets you won&#039;t need it, you, by paying your premium, bet you will need it. It is a given that the insurance company will decide you didn&#039;t need it. This is reality, but it is not fairness. Reality and fairness seldom coincide. 

Insurance bets that most women will deliver in a hospital where the cost for Rhogam testing and the shot is included in the &quot;procedure&quot; of delivery. You went outside the &quot;system&quot; and therefore must prove the efficacy of any procedure. 

I hope that you understand that your lack of insurance coverage for your &quot;choice&quot; of using a midwife will be magnified by universal, single payer coverage. 

Anyone reading here who has also read my blog will doubt that I am a conservative. That doesn&#039;t mean I&#039;m a Republican... that&#039;s an entirely different thing. I have little use for religious qualifications as requirements for political identity. 

I am a secular conservative, which is sometimes a difficult tightrope to walk. I think you, Talina, should have every right to choose the time, place, and circumstances to give birth. Your body, your baby.

You should not have to pay extra for your choices. That violates my political preference of conservatism., which states that you are capable of making your own decisions.

This is why I oppose universal health care and single payer for health care. It&#039;s perhaps difficult to perceive at first... but ultimately it results in  not allowing individual choice.
.-= Donna B.&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://opiningonline.com/2009/09/09/not-so-fun-activities-of-the-last-two-weeks/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Not-So-Fun Activities Of The Last Two Weeks&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I completely understand your frustrations&#8230; I&#8217;m reluctant to say that it is the fault of &#8220;insurance&#8221;. I am more inclined to say it it is the fault of unbelievably inaccurate ideas about &#8220;health&#8221; in general.</p>
<p>First of all, &#8220;health&#8221; insurance is misnamed. It is designed to cover costs that are due to unhealthy states&#8230; a bacterial infection, for example.</p>
<p>Pregnancy is generally a condition of health, not unhealth. There are exceptions, of course. Pre-eclampsia, gestational diabetes&#8230; these are state of unhealth that pregnancy triggers. They are NOT unhealthy in themselves, as there is nothing a woman can do to make them not happen.</p>
<p>However, refusal to pay for a Rhogam test and subsequent adminstration of the shot doesn&#8217;t fall under &#8220;healthy&#8221; or &#8220;unhealthy&#8221;. It&#8217;s a reasonable action to take given known factors. There is no reason why insurance should not cover this. It is in their best interest to do so.</p>
<p>Had you delivered Everly &#8220;normally&#8221; &#8212; that is, in a hospital, you would not have to be fighting some of these things. Your choice to go outside the &#8220;normal&#8221; guidelines has led to scrutiny not applicable to a hospital delivery.</p>
<p>This is completely unfair and unconscionable. It is also a precursor to the &#8220;guidelines&#8221; that will be implemented if/when universal health coverage is enacted.</p>
<p>I support your decision to have Everly delivered by a competent and caring midwife. Now that I&#8217;ve seen how wonderful it was for you, I can&#8217;t imagine it happening any other way. And I find it incomprehensible that your insurance would not pay for your much less expensive choice of childbirth. Somewhere there is a &#8220;does not compute&#8221; module.</p>
<p>Had my daughter chosen the same delivery regimen you did, there is no doubt in my mind that a competent midwife would have recommended a C-section for her. In fact, I think a midwife might have recommended it sooner than the physician did, thus sparing my daughter some of the after-effects of trying too long for a vaginal delivery.</p>
<p>Insurance is misunderstood by most people. It is not a guarantee of payment for any given procedure. It is a bet. Insurance bets you won&#8217;t need it, you, by paying your premium, bet you will need it. It is a given that the insurance company will decide you didn&#8217;t need it. This is reality, but it is not fairness. Reality and fairness seldom coincide. </p>
<p>Insurance bets that most women will deliver in a hospital where the cost for Rhogam testing and the shot is included in the &#8220;procedure&#8221; of delivery. You went outside the &#8220;system&#8221; and therefore must prove the efficacy of any procedure. </p>
<p>I hope that you understand that your lack of insurance coverage for your &#8220;choice&#8221; of using a midwife will be magnified by universal, single payer coverage. </p>
<p>Anyone reading here who has also read my blog will doubt that I am a conservative. That doesn&#8217;t mean I&#8217;m a Republican&#8230; that&#8217;s an entirely different thing. I have little use for religious qualifications as requirements for political identity. </p>
<p>I am a secular conservative, which is sometimes a difficult tightrope to walk. I think you, Talina, should have every right to choose the time, place, and circumstances to give birth. Your body, your baby.</p>
<p>You should not have to pay extra for your choices. That violates my political preference of conservatism., which states that you are capable of making your own decisions.</p>
<p>This is why I oppose universal health care and single payer for health care. It&#8217;s perhaps difficult to perceive at first&#8230; but ultimately it results in  not allowing individual choice.<br />
.-= Donna B.&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://opiningonline.com/2009/09/09/not-so-fun-activities-of-the-last-two-weeks/" rel="nofollow">Not-So-Fun Activities Of The Last Two Weeks</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Ree</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 01:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep.  Sometimes grownupedness sucks serious eggs.
.-= Ree&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://hotfessional.com/2009/09/09/psa-10-things-you-didnt-know/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;PSA – 10 Things You Didn’t Know&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep.  Sometimes grownupedness sucks serious eggs.<br />
.-= Ree&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://hotfessional.com/2009/09/09/psa-10-things-you-didnt-know/" rel="nofollow">PSA – 10 Things You Didn’t Know</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 00:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so sorry you are going through this!  I have had to pay for two babies out of pocket and it is brutal.  Because my husband is self-employed and we have an individual rather than a group insurance policy, maternity costs are not covered.  At all!  I am just thankful I have never needed a c-section.  That bill would probably give my husband a coronary!
.-= Lauren&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://snellingsstories.blogspot.com/2009/09/blueberries-anyone.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Blueberries, anyone?&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so sorry you are going through this!  I have had to pay for two babies out of pocket and it is brutal.  Because my husband is self-employed and we have an individual rather than a group insurance policy, maternity costs are not covered.  At all!  I am just thankful I have never needed a c-section.  That bill would probably give my husband a coronary!<br />
.-= Lauren&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://snellingsstories.blogspot.com/2009/09/blueberries-anyone.html" rel="nofollow">Blueberries, anyone?</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Talina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Talina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 22:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That pretty much sums it up perfectly! Makes me so damn pissed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That pretty much sums it up perfectly! Makes me so damn pissed!</p>
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		<title>By: witchypoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>witchypoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 22:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Government has issued insurance companies a license to steal. Word.
.-= witchypoo&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://psychicgeek.com/mah-drawahs/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mah Drawahs&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Government has issued insurance companies a license to steal. Word.<br />
.-= witchypoo&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://psychicgeek.com/mah-drawahs/" rel="nofollow">Mah Drawahs</a> =-.</p>
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