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You searched for baby birds · Updates from Ryder Family Farm

Abandoned baby birds….


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Last night after coming home from work at midnight I discover Nathan and two baby birds sitting outside the front door. The two babies weren’t flying and Nathan wasn’t sure what to do with them so he sat outside reading a magazine and awaiting my arrival so he could ask me what I think.

When I got home we decided to get them off the sidewalk area so we moved them to out patio where they wouldn’t get stepped on. We had assumed they were babies from the nest that is on our patio.

We let them sit on a blanket outside all night, we didn’t want to try and bring them inside to raise them, we knew they once had the ability to fly since they were out of the nest and that they would probably just go back home once the rested.

This morning the birds had moved off the blanket and were scattered about the patio. One was dead and the other was stuck. The one that died had not visible signs of trauma so were not sure what happened. I have a feeling they are hungry and unfortunately I have no way to feed them.

I read on the internet that moist cat food can be fed to them but the poor little guy wont open his mouth.. He does chirp and call out when he hears other birds though.

I refilled the bird feeder to attract all the neighborhood birds and the little bird is sitting outside on the blanket in the shade right under the feeder. I am hoping he will find his family when the other birds come to feed at our feeder….

Does anybody have any suggestions about feeding birds?? I am afraid he is abandoned..

Baby birds, gardening and moving..


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Lots of new things are happening in my life! I have had the pleasure of enjoying nature lately. I have an apartment patio that is filled with herbs, vegetables and flowers. Just recently two barn swallows that have also taken up residence on my patio. They built a nest, laid eggs and now have six babies!! It has been so much fun to watch these two barn swallows build, nurture and hatch their young! All the time we have just been quietly observing and snapping photos when we can.

Baby birds Mother bird feeding babies

Babies in the nest More babies freeing the lady bugs

Also, I just put 1500 live lady bugs in to my garden for natural pest control and I put 1lb of earthworms into my mini compost bin this morning to speed the composting process. Got my worms and ladybugs from: http://www.wormman.com/

Besides all my nature encounters I am packing and preparing to move into the cutest town home in less than a month! I am excited because I will have my own mini back yard that I can garden in! I am thinking about all the plants I will be able to grow that will attract butterflies and ladybugs!! I just found out that milkweed and hollyhocks attract butterflies and apparently ladybugs love my bearded iris..

Baby finches at 6 weeks old- an update and video.


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I am posting this update on my baby zebra finches for the 3 families that will be adopting them in the near future. As of today the baby finches are 6 weeks and 1 day old.

They have been in a separate cage from their parents for 8 days now and are eating on their own but do not seem to have begun “molting” or gaining their adult feathers so the sex is still unclear.

As you will see in the video I took two of the finches are have traditional colors and one appears to have a color mutation that makes it more unique. We have 5 new eggs in the nest with mom and dad so we are getting ready to send the juvenile finches off to their new homes.

According to finch experts juvenile finches should not be sold or given to new owners until they complete their first molt and the sex is apparent. “Many birds are lost by changing their environment before they complete their first molt and have stabilized from that stress. So we expect the birds to be ready pretty soon here, maybe 2 weeks. I’ll keep you posted! Now enjoy the video:

The birds got free and other crazy pet stories…


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Well today was quite an eventful day! The school district called another snow day so I didn’t have to teach again today. I slept in a bit and then got up and let the Alexandria Maybelle (our bunny) run around the house. She was jumping and running in her cage and it seemed like she wanted to stretch her legs, so we put Dixie in her home and let Alexandria out of hers.

While bunny was running free N comes to me and declares “she did it”! She did what I asked… Turns out our female finch laid an egg today despite the fact that we removed their nest!

Our finches are currently raising 3 babies, the babies just started feeding themselves and today we discovered more laid eggs! We took the nest from the cage because we didn’t want our finches to lay anymore eggs and all the literature said that without a nest they would not lay eggs. We wanted some time before more babies were hatched.

Well, guess that idea is out the window! So, we went into the office to see the freshly laid egg and to decide what to do next.

We decided to remove the babies from the cage the parents were in. All the literature says that the parents would pluck the baby’s feathers and may kill them when they are trying to reproduce again.

We borrowed this cage from my mother, we are giving my parents a finch once the babies are sexed and older so they lent us a cage that we will transport their baby in when it’s time.

Anyway, we decided to put the babies in the borrowed cage but had a slight problem, the finches flew right between the bars of the cage! We had 4 birds flying free all over the office… Thankfully our cats we all out of the office so the birds were safe.

We attempted to shoot a video of us trying to get the birds back in the cage…

We also had some fun times with the crazy snow that has fallen lately.. We have had 2 snow days in a row and have had lots of snow to shovel.

Spoke too soon- My baby finch is FLYING!


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Yesterday I posted about Raising baby finches – week 2 updates. I looked back in my blog post history to see when the first baby hatched. It was December 4th. Before looking back to see just how old the babies were I was gray-finch.JPGsure the were preparing to try flying. After reading the available info my idea was crushed because 2 week and 4 day old birds don’t try to fly!

I called my mom and told her that I wouldn’t be able to give a live finch as a gift but that I would still give the finch, it just wouldn’t be ready to leave the parents for several more weeks.

This morning N woke me up, I was sleeping in because I took nighttime cold medicine. He informed me that our “gray” baby finch had left the nest and was flying around and that I might like to come see it!

What a pretty finch! The beak and head are grayish/ silver and the body is white. We are so excited that the finch is flying and “spreading it’s wings”, now we have two more to go… Watching these little guys develop and grow has been such a cool experience!

My finch is trying to hatch a baby!


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Some of you may remember the saga of my poor birds toe. Lately she has been doing great! I actually ended up cutting off the dead toe for her after several costly and pointless visits to the vet (the vet cut off the wrong toe!)…

Anyway, my bird is doing great! Her scabs are all healed and she able to use the foot. Today when I was checking the nest and cage I realized she laid an egg! I am going to have a baby bird soon!

So, now this is where I need my readers help! I don’t know a single thing about to do for my birds or their babies… Will she lay more eggs? How long will the eggs take to hatch? Does anyone have any tips? Please share!

Read updates on the finches and their hatchings here.

When your backyard flock grows. From chicken rearing to turkeys!


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We were out of chick starter so a trip to the local farm supply store was on the agenda for the day. When visiting the farm supply store we have to visit the baby chick area if the kids are with us because kids LOVE to see baby birds and rabbits (even though the backyard is already full of them).

Did I mention that we got 12 additional baby chicks at the start of this spring? We did! They were on rebate at our local store, we got 10 for free. Can’t pass up free chicks! But we didn’t just get them because they were free… Our current flock of 6 produces from 2-4 eggs per day right now, our oldest hens are about 4 years old… That’s when egg production tends to decline. We used to get an egg a day from each hen. So we knew that we’d eventually need new layers for optimal egg efficiency.

Anyway, now the spring chicks are outside in their own confined run, growing and eating lots while they grow accustomed to our older hens through the protection of wire fencing… Did I mention they are eating lots?!

Today we were on a mission to buy some much needed feed and on the way past the live birds we were reeled in by yet another great deal. $2.00 clearance Turkeys! We had to buy a minimum of 6 turkeys, costing $12 but we are now the proud owners of 6 broad breasted turkeys, 3 bronze and 3 white.

The livestock grows on our little homestead. We are now raising Turkeys!

I don’t know that we’ll choose a broad breasted turkey in future turkey raising endeavors, we typically avoid altered foods and the broad breasted turkey is an altered breed. It’s designed to grow rapidly and is bred to get pretty large compared to heritage turkey breeds that grow slower and live longer. If we ever order turkeys I’m sure we’ll research more and probably pick a different breed but for now we are doing a practice run with these broad breasted turkeys.

We are really brushing up on our turkey raising knowledge right now. It is exciting to be trying something new this year and it’s a welcome distraction from waiting till our house sells 😉

How long until you have turkey to eat?

In as little as 3 1/2 months we could process them and fill our freezer with homegrown turkey! Although, we will likely want to wait as long as possible to butcher if circumstances permit. I’m thinking if they aren’t huge and if they are they are free ranging = not costing us a fortune in feed costs then I’d be glad to let them live until right before Turkey day… The longer they live the less space they are taking up in my freezer. However, this means they’ll need to be alive for the next 7 months. Typically at approximately 20 weeks or 5 months they are slaughter ready. At the 20 week mark the hens can be close to 30 lbs and the toms can be 40-50 lbs.

Broad Breasted Turkey mating, hatching and egg production.

Turkeys are sold as straight run, so there are toms and hens mixed when you buy. If we don’t have to butcher them this summer and we can put them off till fall we cold even have some turkey eggs to enjoy! Turkey hens lay eggs at 6-8 months of age. I’m sure the eggs are huge and delicious too. Which brings us to the idea of hatching your own turkeys…

Broad breasted turkeys are said to be physically unable naturally breed due to their breast size so your turkey eggs are likely to be infertile. The Toms could try mating with the hens but they physically don’t achieve successful fertilization for a number of reasons.

One Backyard Chickens member states:

“They can breed it is just that it is not efficient and the tom will crush/kill more hens then he would get bred and fertilized. You can successfully breed a BB back to a heritage. Hen will lay and the eggs will hatch, she will not lay as many as a heritage and she will not be able to sit on the nest as she will crush the eggs, more likely then not. But yes they can bred and it can be done just not very efficient.”

How much does it cost to feed a turkey? What will your finished turkey have cost you?

The estimates I’ve seen say that a turkey will eat the equivalent of 80lbs of bagged feed from hatching to the 20 week mark which puts them at costing about $1.20 per pound of live weight at a 20 week processing. That means feed costs for a 20 week slaughter could be as low as $36ish for a hen and up to $60 in the case of a large tom. This is cool by me since when we looked at buying free range local birds for thanksgiving last year they were running $75 each.

We figure we can adjust our slaughter timing based on feeds costs and growth rates. We are thinking we’ll have the means to free range them very soon and that will likely make things more cost effective and possibly will allow for a longer life span.

Can I raise Chickens and Turkeys Together?

This was our first question in the store. We don’t have room for separate runs and confinement. The only issue with cohabitation of turkeys and chickens is Blackhead Disease.

Blackhead disease is primarily a disease of young turkeys. Chickens are more resistant to the effects of the infection but may act as carriers of the disease-causing organism.

Turkeys may acquire the blackhead disease directly from the droppings of infected birds. Read more about blackhead disease here.

Disease aside, the only other issue to look out for in cohabitation of turkeys and chickens is aggressive behavior and territory battles. Things like turkeys trying to breach a chickens neck and such…

We plan to raise our birds together. We figured we could be economical to just add turkeys to our existing flock of chickens.

One down side to our impulse poultry buying is that we’ve found now ourselves with 6 poults (baby turkeys) and no turkey feed. Unlike chicks, turkeys need a higher protein containing feed. Our assumption that they could eat our baby chick starter food was WRONG. Don’t make the same mistake.

Poults need 28% protein to fuel their fast growth in the first 8 weeks of life, any higher protein amounts will cause growth problems. After they are 8 weeks old they can be reduced to a feed with 20-22% protein, at 14 weeks they can have something closer to 18-20% protein. The un-medicated chick starter we have contains 18% protein and our regular layer crumbles are only 16% protein.

If you find yourself in a similar predicament with only chicken feed when you come home with poults this little trick will save you. You can make an emergency poult feed from 50% rolled oats & 50% cornmeal by pulsing it in a food processor until it resembles typical poultry crumbles. I just made some and the poults, whom were rejecting the offered chick starter feed, are now eating! Note, this emergency feed should only be used in a pinch and for no longer than a day or you could wind up with some majorly deficient turkeys that could even die.

Feeding chickens and turkeys the same feed isn’t advised because of the varied protein requirements. Plus, the vitamin and mineral requirements of turkeys are much different from chickens… So until the turkeys are older and foraging for most of their own food, they’ll need their own special feed that is separate from the chickens. Guess I’ll be off to the farm supply store tomorrow for some turkey starter!

Have you raised turkeys before? How did it go?

The Self Sufficient HomeAcre

July is a busy month!


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Things are getting quite busy for us here! This month we are moving into a new place, I will begin the new school year with my colorguard students, I am working an auxiliary camp this week at NAU and our anniversary is this Friday!

I have been working to revamp the appearance of my website Custom Gifts by Talina using cascading style sheets (CSS). CSS is pretty interesting and really opens many doors but it is something new to me so naturally it is pretty hard to learn at first. If you are wondering what CSS is you should check out this CSS info. I like CSS because it eliminates the need for tables and lengthy HTML, it allows you to style and entire website with one document and it makes changing font color, size, images etc. very easy and less overwhelming.

In addition to working on my website I have also been working pretty hard to get my home packed up! We are making the move to a town home on July 30th… One day before I begin the school year with my colorguard students!! We are moving in a single day because of time constraints and lease terms. Our new place is being cleaned and serviced the day we move in so naturally we will have soggy carpets and chaos… 🙂

This week I was asked to be a staff member at the upcoming NAU auxiliary camp. This is something new and challenging that I am looking forward to taking on. The camp lasts four days and we are just teaching colorguard basics and a routine to those who signed up. It will be a good learning experience for me!!

Oh, last week I was working on an article for the magazine Mother Earth News. They called for submissions and were offering to pay $250 to the person they choose to publish. Obviously I wrote a piece and sent it in for possible publication! I am anxious to see if they will want to publish me or not!!

The baby birds are growing so much that they look uncomfortably crammed into their nest now!! Pretty soon they will start to leave the nest.. I have a little humming bird that comes by several times a day to drink from my feeder. My lilies are blooming out on my patio and it is an overcast, somewhat cool day. It would be nice to get some rain!

Beautifull Naturally Colored Eggs


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I never intentionally set out to become a poultry farmer, it just sort of played out that way. It all began with a flock of three Americauna/ Easter Egger hens about 6 years ago in our suburban backyard. We wanted to raise our own eggs, taking a small step towards greater self sufficiency.

We added more chickens gradually to get more eggs and once we moved out of the city and begun to free range our birds across several acres the flock really exploded. Partly because I got an incubator and partly because we had so many losses in the flock initially while transitioning from confinement to free ranging. A year later we’ve added heritage turkey, guinea and ducks to the operation.

Between broody hen hatching, incubating, chick buying and predator losses, I honestly can’t tell you how many birds we have anymore. I know breeds and origin for everyone just not solid counts anymore. I can say that we’ve got enough to supply our family with year round eggs plus much, much more.

What I’ve really been after all along is the beautiful rainbow of eggs to enjoy… 

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Right now we aren’t even in what I’d consider the “peak laying season” as the daylight hours are still gradually increasing as they lead to summer solstice in June. We don’t provide artificial light in our poultry coops to control their laying cycles, it’s all sunlight driven here.

We fill one of these baskets a week on just chicken eggs, it’s about 6 dozen eggs. We aren’t eating 6 dozen eggs a week so we are selling extras to our neighbors in and around Golconda, Illinois and we will be back to the farmers market with eggs this summer. If you need eggs give us a shout and we can schedule a time for you to come by!

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When egg purchases are slow I like to get egg-adventurous and make new things. I just realized I’ve never tried sending hard boiled egg to school for the kiddos lunch so I boiled up some eggs. Today I’ve also got plans for a banana cream pie but I’m also eager to make:

Nathan is famous for making his crepes or his German Baby that use a great many eggs. What is your most loved, egg heavy recipe?

Meeting Winnie, running over a lamb and shock fencing…


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Last week was a roller coaster, we are still reeling from it.

You see we were pointed in the direction of a homeless livestock guardian dog. We’ve known we needed one since our beloved family dog lost her life last fall.

Luckily we’ve only had one farm predator issue since losing our farm guard dog, Dixie. You might remember my post about the mink killing my birds just before Easter.

We still have our herding dog that we are trying to train (she might be pregnant!) Continue reading “Meeting Winnie, running over a lamb and shock fencing…”

Life, death & kids…


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Country life is full of life and death encounters. It’s one of the great perks of farm living in my opinion. Some would disagree I suppose but either way it brings perfect “teaching moments” for the kids.

Continue reading “Life, death & kids…”

Herding instincts, birthday joy and milking goats…


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It’s been 25 days since me and Nathan have watched TV. The one thing about farm life that differs from what we were doing before is, we are working LESS hours but we are working HARDER… Not so hard that you want to fall over and die, just hard as in each part of the body actually gets utilized. That means at the end of the day we can both lay down and fall asleep right away. We don’t need to unwind in front of the TV each night, our mental exhaustion is greatly reduced with the job and life change. Though, I’m still kind of mentally exhausted when it comes to trying to wrangle the kids 😛 Oh, and my sciatica hip & back issues are improved now that I’m being more active. 

Next week we are planning to bring a dairy goat home, plus her mating partner! The ordeal of trekking back to Evansville for house upkeep and to pickup our milk has been taking it’s toll, big time. The kids don’t enjoy being cooped up in a car all day and we lose too much time during the travel that we could be putting to good use around the house and farm. The number of leaving-the-farm-errands MUST be reduced… So I’m taking up goat milking next week. Wish me luck.

I’m intimidated and anxious about the mater of fencing for the goat. I know they can be difficult and sometimes a downright headache. I’m hoping we get lucky or can manage it because we NEED the milking to take place here on the farm for the sake of simplicity. This weekend, better known as Goat Prep 2014 will be our last shot at getting ready before the goats arrive.

We also processed the first of the 40 Red Ranger chickens this week. I’ve been caring for to 40 Red Rangers here on Tanglefoot Ranch, they are meat birds for a farm project. One of them got a hurt leg in a chicken tractor moving ordeal and was just too far gone to mend. To be humane, Nathan ended the suffering and surprisingly Everly was his helper. Eventually the girls will see slaughter from start to finish but we haven’t been pushing them, rather I’ve been trying to shield them, Adalyn specifically.

The other night when Nathan went out to start the slaughter process Everly noticed he had left right away and wanted to go out with him. I warned her about what she might see and she was eager to go and watch “cause I’ve never seen it done before” she commented. Then she went out and took part in it ALL. Her favorite part was when the organs came out and we got to identify and discuss the workings of the digestive system. I cringed a little when she came back inside to ask me if I’ve ever seen “a chicken’s face cut off”. She was referring to it being bled out and then beheaded for plucking. LOL. She took it like a champ, it’s a good thing too because slaughter day is on the horizon for all the other meat birds. Our plucker and kill cones are being engineered right now by the men of Tanglefoot Ranch. Baby EverlyFive year old Everly

Oh, speaking of Everly… She just had her fifth birthday! A few friends made the trip out to Tanglefoot to help us celebrate. She had a Hello Kitty cake, got her own puppy (a working dog. Red Heeler/ Border Collie breed named Snowball) had friends over to play with, it was a great day for her. So great that she zonked out in the middle of our nightly story time. Look how big she is!

We’ve been working on herding dog training for her new puppy. Snowball has strong herding instincts and has already taken to rounding up the turkeys, chickens and even the girls. This scares them and can result in unwanted bites or scratches when puppy enthusiasm combines with herding needs not being met. We have lots of work ahead of us with her but I think she’ll also be a great addition to the family. She’s already bringing out the best in our existing dog, Dixie. Dixie seems to love being a leader and she loves the freedom and space she now has to roam here on the farm. 

I bet when the goats arrive Snowball will get enough herding work to keep her busy ;P

Tales from the backyard flock: Are they cooked or do they have chicks in them?


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For the last week, maybe two, we have had significantly fewer eggs each day from our six laying hens. Initially I thought that the hens that were not laying had nutritional imbalances since they’ve been eating chicks starter food (against our wishes). We’ve recently integrated our baby chicks to our adult flock, our Rhode Island Reds much prefer eating chick starter it seems. Chick starter has a high protein content and adult birds shouldn’t be eating it but I’m not standing out there and shooing the hens away from the chick feed, three times a day, right now… so those stinking hens are gorging themselves. 

Also, my new chicks are integrating to the main flock right now and we are preparing to move in just a few days so our chicken coop situation is in transition. I also figured the stress of the transition was possibly impacting the egg output from the hens.

Today there was quite a squawk fest out of the chicken coop and my girls anxiously ran out to collect the eggs. However, there were no eggs to be found. So we went about our garden and backyard chores. I opened the compost bin to get some fresh compost for one of the plants and I left it open for the chickens to scratch around in since were getting ready to move and we have no intention of taking cooking compost with us. I had the compost bin open earlier in the week for the same reason but husbands who work outside the homestead (he has just 3 work days left!) miss lots of strategic decision making and close the compost bin back up thinking they are being helpful.

Anyway, after a while we went back inside had some cold water ate breakfast and we heard the chickens squawking again. We went out to try to collect eggs and once again there were none to be found.

They always say if you’re missing eggs, go on an egg hunt.

Continue reading “Tales from the backyard flock: Are they cooked or do they have chicks in them?”

Birthday month and demon possessed kitchen electronics…


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Some of you already know that March is my birthday month.

My birthday is also typically considered the first day of spring, it’s March 20th.

Sunshine over at … and the pursuit of happiness is linking to all the March bloggy birthdays over on her site and she gifted me with this nifty button to spread the word about my birthday and I thought including it in this post was the perfect way to “spread the word”.

I am not particularly excited about the coming birthday (which annoys N) but I know he is making an effort to plan something simple and enjoyable while we are down in Tennessee for our prenatal appointment that weekend.

If you feel so inclined you can buy me a nursing top from my target baby registry or a shaved ice maker for when I am in labor or something pregnancy/ mommy related, lol!

I’ve got the links to all three of our baby registries right there on my sidebar under the baby development widget (especially for you Krystal, added the furniture one ;-P). See ————->

Anyway, the chuckle worthy tidbit I wanted to share today is actually not about my birthday, it is about the crappiness of this house (big surprise huh?). Right now the wild birds are pecking away at things in the attic and it is making lots of noise but that is not the doozie. This is:


Yep, we had to move a lamp to the bathroom so we could shower and pee with some light!

The electricity is off in the bathroom, the dining room and also one plug in the kitchen. We had to flip the breaker off when the garbage disposal wouldn’t turn off this morning. *sigh*

At this point I am just laughing at every new crappy thing we are having to deal with… It is good blogging material but we just want to be done renting already, good blogging material or not!

Raising and breeding finches


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Male finches sing a lovely song and can bring great joy into a home. Adding a female finch (of the same breed) can also be quite a joy but hatching finches requires a bit of knowledge and planning! If you are interested in finding info about how to hatch your own baby finches you have come to the right place! My own finches have started laying eggs and we are expecting babies in a few days.

If you plan on getting finches and having them breed you will need to first provide them with a nest. Many finch experts will tell you that store bought nests are best for finches. Generally it is best to give your adult finches the same type of nest they were bred in although some finches will prefer to build their own nests. Once you provide a nest don’t be surprised if it is rejected by your finches just get them a different one and see how they react to it. They will eventually take to a nest and you will be on your way to breeding finches!

Once your finches have a nest they will require ample sunlight and they must feel safe and secure. If you have pair of finches and you don’t want them to breed just take the nest away from them. Finches will not breed without a nest.

When your finches are ready the male will fuss with the nest adding any provided nesting material to the nest as he sees fit. A frantic mating song and dance will occur and eventually you will find and egg in the nest.

The female will lay one egg per day; this is her building her clutch. Finches will typically lay up to eight eggs per clutch and once the desired clutch size is achieved the incubation period will begin. Sometimes the birds will begin incubation once the first egg is laid the incubation period will be about 10-16 days. If your eggs don’t hatch 20 days after the last egg was laid they most likely will not hatch at all and should be discarded.

Once your finch eggs hatch they will be cared for by their parents. Finches regurgitate food for their babies so you won’t need any special baby food for them. Just let the parents take care of the chicks. Once the chicks are eating on their own they can be removed from the parent’s cage. Chicks should be separated from the parents so they are not attacked and viewed as “in the way” when the parents try to breed again.

Be sure to keep your new finches from mating with each other. This will result in many birth defects and other issues. Pair your finches with unrelated mates or you can house them without a nest to discourage breeding.

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